PureOS-project February 2019

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"PureOS changes" notifications
by Chris Lamb 14 Jun '19

14 Jun '19

Hi -project, Many years ago I created an IRC bot for Debian that would live on its own channel and simply notify on new uploads, bugs and similar changes in that distribution: https://chris-lamb.co.uk/projects/debian-devel-changes-bot … it is now rather popular and, indeed, many people have noted to me in the interim years not only how motivating it was to be exposed to others' work like that without having to explicitly or actively look for it but it informs & keeps them up-to-date on the project in a wider, less-technical, sense. I found it also a valuable learning tool — if I don't understand a bug report that scrolls past I sometimes click it and invariably end up learning something I didn't previously know. § In this light, I created the following ticket early last year to get this rolling for PureOS: https://tracker.pureos.net/T375 … however, movement on this appears to have stalled or otherwise is lower on others' priority lists than I believe it should be. The basic idea would be to have a separate "dev/pureos/changes" (or similarly named) Matrix room that would have this info spammed into it. Discussions would remain on dev/pureos or, of course, on issue tracker, etc. The bug itself unfortunately is a little ambiguous about what we would like to include in the notifications (tracker bugs vs uploads vs Git commits...), but I firmly and adamently believe that getting *anything* at the moment would be great start so I wasn't being overly specific by design. (The task is also being tracked in parallel on the sysadmin tasks tracker too, adding somewhat to the confusion.) Note that this would also help relieve some developers of feeling like they are the only ones who know about certain areas, preventing further potential "siloing" of knowledge. Just to underline, whilst it might appear to be a "wishlist" feature, I believe it will provide some always-needeed social cohesion and connection within the PureOS development team! As geeks we often criminally underrated such things.. we are humans too! Any thoughts? In particular, can we get some strong +1's from you all (especially Jeremiah) to take back to the ticket and hopefully parley that into getting this reprioritised? Best wishes, -- Chris Lamb https://puri.sm

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Clarification of PureOS browser and browser policy
by Jeremiah C. Foster 08 Mar '19

08 Mar '19

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Hi, We have a rather sizable backlog of issues around the PureBrowser: https://tracker.pureos.net/project/board/1/ I point this out not as a criticism of Jonas, the PureBrowser maintainer, but to highlight that we do not have a clear, distilled policy document that might mitigate some of the issues in the backlog. One example is this issue: https://tracker.pureos.net/T699 That issue comes from a video of PureOS which makes some inaccurate claims. The video was linked in our bug tracker and I went through the video and pulled out the claims so that they can be refuted, T699 tracks one such claim of not having httpseverywhere enabled per default. Having a policy for an issue like this would allow someone to quickly go to our policy, quote it in the issue tracker and/or demonstrate that in fact we do have httpseverywhere installed, and then close the bug which I feel is a positive outcome. As it stands now, we have a lot of issues that seem to attract a lot of commentary but little change is effecutated. For me the point of an issue tracker is to track the progress of the issue to the point where it is no longer an issue and it is closed. Is this a shared view from folks on this list? Regards, jeremiah -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEEBkkHqXr+u7OUqMKseFgrT+6RsjkFAlxm9YQACgkQeFgrT+6R sjnVagv+L0v1WkdLZ3jL2NoZbJr8ROE2/SPUyBe67chr1v1dOJIyyxcw9/Ol1FGU dztk+/XwKri9SHlV9lP7lTim/RxPbZ5wxVPQf+S3n8KDNnOOBdpRbo0xRYd/qqTM aIeYrfZTwmJcK+cszrr8Zpse1YUaB6RgMvj/0XFHRlbGVvUCXeYafxomtsAz4Ron huz57a50lqXgOP0hQ4mYp3mCvPOJZQokTnNVJon5oifNbGf7+Ex/qW68B9/5aVoU I7TCY3W2TT26RnKxIHMKOHMOkmidWt+DRxh7QCxS1OMkhf+4KxDGboyRRDUBGH1/ IJu7XQFCwQ+bbtWT2ZSRqxgnPxaPgjhIt3ypGOBiBOWDX/f8Wrdq0I+RsS/boIGS A26CGs47NTEU/C4LActM3Sg+IvS7+r2LHr4USgw/Zxyn7lvO1EJ/332whA+ZAsvg XXQOc1PznOrIovUZJsTVoReQbOPIS/p9W4CM0bBFCN0R/JiuT57eBKEzA8+/EKUE T349zjsC =a8Ly -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [PureOS] ISO image building process documentation?
by Chris Lamb 26 Feb '19

26 Feb '19

Hi Jeremiah, > > You mentioned to me «en passant» recently that you had built ISO > > images of PureOS. I was wondering whether you had documented the > > process for doing this yet? > > I have not documented this yet. I have been merely building packages so > far, I have every intention of building images. So far my approach is > to follow whatever info I can get from Matthias and use that > information to build up the wiki. At the moment I cannot find the > information on building images on the wiki, but I'm determined to find > or create it. Great stuff! Any progress on this? :) Best wishes, -- Chris Lamb https://puri.sm

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ISO image building process documentation?
by Chris Lamb 22 Feb '19

22 Feb '19

Hi Jeremiah et al., You mentioned to me «en passant» recently that you had built ISO images of PureOS. I was wondering whether you had documented the process for doing this yet? (My motivation is to push forward on reproducible builds of said images as discussed.) Best wishes, -- Chris Lamb https://puri.sm

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Mirrors for PureOS? (was: "Re: I CAN HAZ MIRROR?")
by Chris Lamb 21 Feb '19

21 Feb '19

Hi Jeremiah, Thanks for your reply. :) I don't disagree with anything specific in your mail but think we should just briefly pause and zoom out here: > > > Whilst extremely kind of them, how will this work for our users? > > For power users we can simply […] > > > Do you mean how do we enable our users to easily take advantage of > > the mirrors? E.g. not having to edit source.list.d/ by hand? > > Ideally the 'Software' tool from GNOME might be a good candidate [..] > > > > Ask them to alter their sources.list? Are we going to commit to > > > providing a CDN of some description? > > I intend to speak to […] So, again, these are all very sensible replies & solutions and furthermore I'm not at all against the conceptual idea of a mirror, but I am just wondering whether introducing such infrastructure (with all the inherent technical and support overheads) should appear to be so high on our priority list right now? :) Best wishes, -- Chris Lamb https://puri.sm

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Re: [PureOS] I CAN HAZ MIRROR?
by Chris Lamb 21 Feb '19

21 Feb '19

Jeremiah wrote: > There are some folks who're will to mirror our PureOS distro which is > very generous of them. Alas, I fear this is a bigger question that just rsync daemon settings. :) Whilst extremely kind of them, how will this work for our users? Ask them to alter their sources.list? Are we going to commit to providing a CDN of some description? Even a round-robin DNS solution has issues in that we have no immediate, insight or control over whether any "non-official" mirror is up-to-date, something obviously important from a user point of view. Thoughts? Best wishes, -- Chris Lamb https://puri.sm

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I CAN HAZ MIRROR?
by Jeremiah C. Foster 01 Feb '19

01 Feb '19

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 There are some folks who're will to mirror our PureOS distro which is very generous of them. One of them, linux.pizza ( https://mirror.linux.pizza/) recommends we use rsync to support mirrors. There is another potential mirror in the US who'll work with rsync too. What are the recommended locations to point our rsync daemon at so that other sites might mirror our repos? This is what they mirror for Debian; https://mirror.linux.pizza/debian/ Regards, Jeremiah -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGzBAEBCgAdFiEEBkkHqXr+u7OUqMKseFgrT+6RsjkFAlxSHH0ACgkQeFgrT+6R sjnjBAwA26y8DR9JURhTJWluuq/LfrfvnhwbMoG0cCsU0WLNCNj8iafTrw2an7ys e+yyHyb/Ysv10uqKObrUpehvJEUmV6HIQtaCDHrj1jzkDfVXVKG/ESfkKgqhB1KH H8//w6hqjTpA4zKAVCi/8qF1LvhXkF7ys6eBl5vVM6cR000n29UVdxCwOM4lrYvp 62TEHN6hkEB+Vib58FGkucs0bBnQ5EJIa88wyb83h2FiUQnbYGESwje4k1N8bEAX Lhs0/KZwQtcDU9ZCxwI6wVDm9tYrfwki76O7Fw0qymwwwqLAKhXxUoFMnY3fizId M3MWIhsRnvW1Sl8E1zU1PrIUT67lSvWu11Ab1fKrDV7GlVkU9wiZXt2teQE4yy7d 0kvE//ZRWIEM0u/S/I4saLFBRCW03+gWdW1jgZqSkjGXfyBlXL1ZHtSIvp92WJVp 1dq5svUKouBpu+obk3/LlDLEH77yP0MgATXa3iPXmYPb8UPTBOyyA0gJMqksffDC kK6dLQT9 =51Sb -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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