Hi all,

As part of the discussions around the need for more stability in PureOS to support enterprise use cases we agreed a few months ago that ideally what we'd want is an OS that comes with a recent user-facing stack *and* a reasonable degree of stability.

Currently with Debian we only have 2 choices: Follow stable and get a new user-facing platform stack every 3 years or follow testing and get it every day. Unfortunately, neither of these makes sense for consumer desktop use. Testing is too unstable, and stable is almost always way behind the current GNOME platform. We can't afford to be too far behind, because ecosystem-wide changes (e.g. the app menu migration, the new icon style, etc.) affect third party applications regardless of what version of the platform we ship. This goes for both desktop and phone.

What would like is something like a yearly cycle, in sync with at least every other upstream GNOME release, similar to other consumer-facing OSes.

I had a discussion with Jonas the other week, and an interesting idea we came upon about was trying to change the options we have from the Debian side, from within upstream.

Debian currently doesn't have a great branch for desktop use, so commonly people run Debian testing for that, but everyone agrees that this is not ideal. It would be interesting to explore if there's enough interest in the Debian community to try and establish an additional branch between stable and testing, which matches people's expectations for a desktop system in terms of stability/freshness.

Seeing as we work upstream as much as possible, it seems to me that the "Purism Way" to solve this problem would be to work with other interested parties upstream to find a solution that will be beneficial for all Debian desktop users, and of course require less maintenance for us in the long run.

I know this is a complicated issue that has been discussed already in various forms in various places but we still need a solution, so here we go again :)

Cheers, Tobias