[PureOS] Let's stablize PureoS Green

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Jeremiah C. Foster (2019-03-21 16:55:52)
> I think that a Debian stable 'base' with flatpak on top and/or 
> backported apps will serve us well.

I think the flatpak part of such plan can be ready for our users no 
sooner than 6-12 months if we start invest seriously in developing 
maintenance for it now!


> Already parts GNOME 3.32 has come into the 'Experimental' which means 
> that it will hopefully make its way into Testing later.

Making its way into testing is relevant only when tracking Debian 
testing.

If tracking Debian stable instead, what is relevant is packages that has 
not only entered Debian testing but also has been backported to Debian 
stable.

Core GNOME parts have not been backported to stable - at least not in 
the semi-official https://backports.debian.org/ repository, as indicated 
by e.g. https://packages.debian.org/gnome-session (compare with e.g. 
https://packages.debian.org/openvpn noticing backport-* entries).


> Have parts of the GNOME 3.32 desktop already in experimental shows 
> that there is interest in Debian in having the latest GNOME.

GNOME 3.32 in experimental does not in itself tell if Debian has a 
_general_ interest in having latest GNOME or that is just a one-off 
effort.

A better indicator is looking at the flow into testing of sample GNOME 
parts, e.g https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gnome-session/news/ - and then 
compare those dates to GNOME release dates to get the timeliness of 
releases entering Debian testing.


> In addition, things like Geary are already flatpak'd. I'm running a 
> 3.32 version of Geary here on PureOS Green.

Question with flatpak is not if possible to execute installed programs. 
but how we handle QA aspects we then no longer get from Debian - 
licensing and security fixes and more, for all parts also all linked in 
libraries and included media files etc., and when we have matured our 
handling to a level we dare declare stable towards our users.

What is not yet stable in Debian testing is the system as a whole.  
Packages should be in usable form already when uploaded to unstable!

  If we choose to use Debian stable for some parts and flatpak 
and/or backports and/or home-maintained packages for some parts, then 
depending on how well we _MAINTAIN_ that whole construct we may end up 
fooling ourselves into having an expensive to maintain burden which is 
(different but) no better than Debian testing.


 - Jonas

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